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I still feel like such a failure when it comes to everything. I went to CPAC and Sunday. I had to bring home nearly everything I put on my table. I'm now stuck with 6 very large stuffed ponies. I probably spent more on supplies than I made. I hate that selling crafts on the internet is some sort of urban legend; I've never been able to do it. No one ever recognises my cosplay, no matter how accurate or how much effort I put in. I just feel like garbage.
Please don't tell me to 'just do things for yourself'. i'm sure I have some sort of personality disorder. I need praise or everything I do becomes worthless to me.


Here's my Neko cosplay from when I wore it to Genericon last month. I was proud of it until I started taking it cons.

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It's exactly like the official art, except my wig is a little short, that's all ): My friend wants me to wear it to AB because she'll be Fushimi, but I've grown to hate this costume. I'll just wear it for a few hours. I know it'll be just like the time she was Izaya and I was Erika. Everyone loved her costume and ignored me.

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This is a fanart because I don't feel like finiding the official art, but my costume looks good, right?

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Poniko. She was happy I recognised her, but Yume Nikki is actually popular, you know? She bought the little plush Uboa and Uboa pin I made. That made me feel pretty good.

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Misaki!

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Izumo, Mikoto, and Bandou!
I was happy to see other K people, even though they didn't get excited over my own K cosplay...

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My table. The two black displays are my mom's.
Because I'm stupid, I don't know how to display my stuff properly. I'm not creative.

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Stuff I bought.


I really don't think I'll sell at cpac again next year. It's not worth the effort for the amount I sell. I hurt my leg from setting up the table. I'm just not cut out for this. I'm just a screw up with everything in life.

Well, I'll be wearing Madotsuki again to Anime Boston. At least I make people happy when I wear that one. It's just a shame that a costume I bought from the thrift store gets more attention than the stuff I make. Anyway, I've been talking to a guy lately who wants to be my Masada for AB. He says we can take piano picture together. I hope it work outs. We actually have alot of cosplays from the same series. It's kind of a weird coincidence.

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starrysnafu
Apr. 10th, 2013 07:18 pm (UTC)
I am really surprised you don't sell better; especially when I know people that sell well, and tbh, they make horrible crap that I would be embarrassed to give away free. Your keychains look cute.

Lolitas don't really wear the maid/headband things as much anymore, so maybe that's why they didn't sell out.

Your skirt looks really good from the back; you can see all the detail you put into it there. And it looks well-constructed.

But I don't know, if the fanart is accurate to the official art, then you had mid-length curly hair; the character had long straight. That's a little thing, but there's a million anime girls with pink hair and schoolgirl outfits. There really is nothing to distinguish that character from any other, except the little things like exact accurate hair style.

Like, if you look at Hungary (who you cosplayed, right?) she has a much more unique design... there aren't that many brunette anime girls that wear long green old-style dresses with aprons.

Maybe it's not you, maybe it's the character...
soraryuu
Apr. 10th, 2013 07:40 pm (UTC)
It wasn't the headdresses that I'm worried about because they didn't really cost me anything to make (plus, I amde them for last year's con). It's that I made a bunch of large MLP plushies and only sold one. I guess MLP isn't big anymore... I also made some jewelry which didn't sell. The materials cost money so that was a blow.

The thing is, I'm a huge K fan so all the outfits are burned into my head. It's hard for me to get into the mindset of someone who casually enjoyed the show, I guess. I think the uniform is very unique and that's why I chose to make it. I love the ruffles. But anyway, the first time I worse it, I even carried a cat plush with me ): I also made sure to add the tiny details that make it like the collar and anklet. I think the thing for me to keep in mind when I go to a con is that all the other attendees are the enemy. They just are too different from me. It's a shame but that's how it is.

Hungary is nearly indistinguishable from both Suiseiseki frm Rozen Maiden and Suu from Shugo Chara, actually. :P
soraryuu
Apr. 10th, 2013 07:51 pm (UTC)
And it is 'me' because I pick crappy characters :P
soraryuu
Apr. 10th, 2013 07:57 pm (UTC)
Wigs cost so much. I don't have the money. Am I really supposed to buy multiple wigs in the same color? ):
starrysnafu
Apr. 10th, 2013 08:01 pm (UTC)
Maybe not... depends on the wig. Is that one that you can safely straighten/iron out? Being straightened would probably make it longer too.
soraryuu
Apr. 10th, 2013 08:21 pm (UTC)
I was going to straighten in my all my irl friends said it was too pretty the way it is and that I shouldn't do that >
soraryuu
Apr. 10th, 2013 08:26 pm (UTC)
*it but
starrysnafu
Apr. 10th, 2013 07:58 pm (UTC)
Do you have the plushies up on DA or on the net to sell? Most people that I know buy most of their fan stuff online, on etsy or DA. I know it's hard to make money on fan crafts though; I get what you mean about it being a myth. I only personally know one person that's making any decent money at it, and they're ridiculously good, and work at a craftstore so they get a discount on materials.

Well yeah, (Suiseiseki anyway, Suu is a blonde); but Suiseiseki is literally the only one. I could think of a dozen pink-haired schoolgirls off the top of my head... and most of them look like copies of the above character...most people don't remember the little details, unfortunately. Maybe it's just too rare a cosplay. Most of the people I know that want attention or photos taken play popular characters from series that are "in" right now.

Have you asked around on any cosplay forums to see if anyone has any advice?
soraryuu
Apr. 10th, 2013 08:26 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I have them on the MLP Arena and I had them on ebay for months. No bites.

I thought K was in ): It's hot on Tumblr. I was happy that I finally liked something that was popular ): If I didn't care about popularity, I'd be the girl from Tatami Galaxy instead lol

I don't know the cosplay community so I'm afraid they might be too harsh on me. My depression gets triggered very easily...

I'm just so sad over this ): I feel like such a failure. My very best is never good enough.
soraryuu
Apr. 10th, 2013 09:33 pm (UTC)
I just straightened the wig :) My friends wre totally wrong about leaving it curly. Thanks for the reality check on it.
starrysnafu
Apr. 10th, 2013 09:44 pm (UTC)
I really hope it helps; I do think you have a good cosplay, and I really love that skirt.

I've never heard of K either ): admittedly, I'm not as into anime as I once was, but... I've usually heard of stuff at least :3

The cosplay community can be harsh, but tbh the thing i think they're harshest about is overweight cosplayers...which isn't a problem for you, thank goodness :3 (not that there's anything wrong with being big and cosplaying, but the ragging big cosplayers get is ridiculous)
miezen
Apr. 10th, 2013 08:55 pm (UTC)
Yeah, the wig was probably the problem re; the costume. Unfortunately, yeah, people do expect your wigs to be as accurate as possible for any given cosplay you do. Which sucks because wigs are expensive, but. Yeah. The actual costume looks great, though. It may also be the show itself; I've actually never heard of K outside of you talking about it. Even moderately popular series can be hard to get attention for cosplaying from if the costume isn't super intricate and impressive, let alone something newer that isn't a huge hit. Like, I get the feeling that, if I were to successfully make a Maou costume from Maoyuu Maou Yuusha within the next year, not many people would recognize me.

That's weird re; the MLP plushies. Maybe CPAC didn't have as big of a brony presence as some cons do? It may also depend on the price, since some people are ridiculous and don't understand how expensive plush making is. It's also possible that people may be tiring of buying stuff of the mane 6 or something. Not to mention some are more popular than others. Honestly if I was an artist selling MLP stuff, I wouldn't go for mane 6. I'd go for Fluttershy, Rainbow Dash, Pinkie Pie, Luna, Derpy Hooves, maybe Vinyl Scratch, and maybe Twilight Sparkle. That seems to be the most popular character set. Rarity has a dedicated but fairly small following comparatively, and people only really seem to care much about Applejack in the context of AppleDash.
soraryuu
Apr. 10th, 2013 09:33 pm (UTC)
I just straightened the wig. I never should have listened to my friends about it.

K is big on Tumblr, though. That's how I found out about it. The No.6 fandom was excited about it when the trailer came out because the main guys from K look just like the No.6 guys.

I sell my ponies for $30 but go down to $25 if someone wants to haggle. I mostly make side characters like the Dr.
miezen
Apr. 10th, 2013 09:45 pm (UTC)
It did look pretty, but if the waves aren't accurate to anyone you cosplay, that has to go.

Eh, big on tumblr doesn't necessarily mean much, though. Honestly No. 6 isn't even that big, compared to an actual huge fandom like Madoka Magica or Fate/.

That's weird then. That's pretty cheap for MLP plushies, and the right side characters usually sell. May I ask who all you made?
soraryuu
Apr. 10th, 2013 09:59 pm (UTC)
How about Psycho Pass? Is that big? I mean since it seems Urobuchi's series tend to be hits. Other than that, I guess APH is still the only blockbuster anime that I like and even that is waning in popularity. When I try to cosplay alternate outfits for Hungary and Belarus, it falls flat just like my K cosplay :|

I had: Derpy (as a pillow pet/large beanie baby style), Twilight, Flutteshy, DJ, Dr., Rarity, and Lyra (all as normal shaped ponies). Only the DJ sold and it was to a girl who buys from me every year (I call her my biggest fan lol).
miezen
Apr. 11th, 2013 01:30 am (UTC)
It's not huge but Psycho Pass does seem to have more of a following than K. It's one of the more popular things from recent seasons. And yeah Hetalia cosplay is kind of a weird situation, especially if you cosplay girls. Since lol that fandom ugh. Honestly though I'm not really sure what's particularly big on the convention circuit besides fucking Homestuck these days. I haven't been to one in a while, to be fair. I think part of the trouble, too, though, is that what the con crowd is into tends to be kind of behind from what the internet is into. It even took cons a surprisingly long time to start having much Madoka Magica cosplay. So something so recent and that isn't licensed (is it? I mean by anyone but crunchyroll, CR only stuff doesn't really count here) is going to be tough to get people to recognize. Cons are becoming more and more of a casual crowd as a whole, and the perennial huge titles like FMA, Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts, Bleach, etc seem like the best ways to get recognition, sadly.

Wow, I'm really surprised the Derpy didn't sell at the very least. Hm. I think I do have an actual guess re; MLP stuff, though. There have been a TON of new MLP-only conventions popping up in the past year or so. It's possible the brony population has opted to prioritize those for their attendance, and especially their spending. I know I plan on buying as little MLP stuff as I can at ACen since I went to Canterlot Gardens back in September and bought a ton of pony stuff there.
soraryuu
Apr. 11th, 2013 02:07 pm (UTC)
I wish our FiM con hadn't moved to Baltimore ): That's 6 hours away now ugh. I used to make such good money at it. We don't have any in NJ now (I go to NJ for cons. NYC is too difficult to travel in especially with bags and bags of products)
miezen
Apr. 11th, 2013 02:47 pm (UTC)
Eesh, that sucks. Maybe a new one will pop up in NJ though. New MLP cons show up all the time.

Re; making money at AA tables, I think the biggest thing is to have something really cool that no one else in the AA has. It'll draw people in and make them look at your stuff more. Also of course making shit for the popular series. Your stuff is all really nice, but I think the trouble is that artist alleys all have a ton of plushies, prints, keychains, lolita headbands, buttons, etc. You kind of need something to set you apart. Maybe try to figure out a unique item that's fairly low in cost to make.

Also I think the way you set your display up looks nice. It's just a bit low profile. I'd suggest finding some way to decorate it with something that reaches up fairly high, to catch people's eyes from further away. Like a big tall sign or something.

Oh! Also since you have that Pokemon display cloth, I'd totally suggest making some Pokemon items. That's a perennial fandom for sure. Even just like. Plush pokeballs or something. For the right price I'd absolutely buy a little plush pokeball.
soraryuu
Apr. 11th, 2013 02:59 pm (UTC)
My decorated ties are my unusual item. I've never seen anyone else make those. I usually sell a couple. Other than that, like I said , I'm stupid and uncreative. I just do what I can.

I made a Dawn hat and no one even asked about it so I'm pretty discouraged from doing Pokemon...
miezen
Apr. 11th, 2013 11:33 pm (UTC)
Eh, Dawn isn't terribly popular, though, and the thing with hats is that there's an oversaturation of them. I can guarantee you I will not be buying any cute fleece hats at any cons for quite a while. I already have 2 or 3 fleece hats with ears that I love, and a Rarity-themed winter hat on top of that. They're such a go-to item for people to make and any given person only needs so many. I'd suggest making fairly small pokeballs of different types out of relatively cheap stuff, or making things of more popular pokemon, and maybe one or two less popular ones in case of someone who really loves that one. Like how I'd jump on cute Houndour or Houndoom stuff.

Edited at 2013-04-11 11:39 pm (UTC)
soraryuu
Apr. 12th, 2013 02:48 am (UTC)
Well, there aren't any competing hat makers at that con ^^;;; Neray everyone does drawn art. To be honest, I don't want to add new products. I really just want to sell out what I have and quit...
spicy_diamond
Apr. 11th, 2013 02:46 am (UTC)
OMG is that Pokemon fabric you have as your tablecloth?! Eee! That's so cool!

Your cosplay looks really good. I love the skirt. (But, I don't recognize the series ^.^0) The only think I can think of is that you just must not have ran into the right people. Sometimes it's hard to find people in the same fandom. Even if the fandom itself is popular.

My cosplay have gone either way.I've had a couple that were really popular; but, then, I also have a tendency to cosplay obscure series or obscure characters in popular fandoms... But, on the upside... I've learned sorta like being unrecognized since it means I can sneak around faster and not have to deal with people during Cons? (One year I was Sophie with a life-sized Turnip Head... I couldn't shop. I couldn't go to panels. I couldn't sit down to eat. It drove me nuts. I finally shoved it at my Dad to hold and then he kept on getting stopped for pictures.)

If you're not happy with how your sales are going. You might take a break and just have fun for a con or two? (Maybe look for some fresh ideas about how to set up your stall since it sounded like you're not happy with the current layout?) Wish I knew some good places to sell crafts on the internet. But you have more experience than I do in that regard. Just the fact that you're brave enough to do your own stand is awesome to me. I don't nearly have that kind of skill.

(I did see this floating around at work? Maybe you can find it in your own library and get some ideas?)
soraryuu
Apr. 11th, 2013 01:22 pm (UTC)
When I was Madotsuki from Yume Nikki, I was trying to get to the end of the autograph line to meet the VAs and I kept getting stopped for pictures so much that I had to have my friend hold my spot at the end of the line because I couldn't get to it XD It was pretty fun. But I've never gotten stopped as much as you described. I think that would get old fast.

I don't have any cons that I'm selling at for the rest of the year actually, except for maybe one local con (the local cons only get about 50-200 people) I have to be careful where I book tables since I don't make a ton of money, I can't afford $80 tables lol I think I'll just stick to the local shows next year too. Unless I do cpac just one more time to get rid of stuff and not make anything new to bring. It's a year away so I'll have to think.
redstars
Apr. 11th, 2013 06:11 am (UTC)
I don't think you're the problem!! I'll be honest and say the flaws were:
-like others have said, Neko has a generic "pink haired anime schoolgirl" look to her, and people may not have known who it was/mistaken it for something else

-wigs need to be super accurate, so I'm glad you straightened it! How much did you pay for it? I used to spend $50+ on my wigs but honestly if you look around eBay you can get some super nice wigs for $20-$25

-character choice - even if she's someone you really want to cosplay, Neko is probably fairly low on the popular list of K characters and that could be why you didn't get much attention?


Honestly I find the only way people really pay attention/take pics of you lately is if:
-Homestuck
-Bleach/Naruto/FMA/anything huge like that
-amazingly huge props
-costumes that look like $500 went into them

The only cosplays I remember getting pictures in were Roxy when I did Homestuck, and then the years I did Hakuouki and South Park, of all things. This is out of probably 11-12 costumes. Honestly it's not you/the level of quality, it's the character and how popular the series is. I think you did a good job, and you look adorable as Neko, even if other people didn't see it! ♥

As for your sales, I'm sorry you didn't sell much! ): I think the problem with your display is there's too much on it/crammed on to the table. Something small with a 2 or 3 shelves would probably help you keep things a bit more organized & leave more table space so you can spread things out a bit? Also something like a piece of corkboard covered in fabric, just prop it up like a picture frame and you can use tacks to hold up your keychains/stick your pins to it and stuff for better display! You could get a fairly tall one and stick it to the side of those wire crates, then pin up all those little bags you've got in the box, even. I've seen it a lot at cons and it really helps even just for browsing. I find I honestly pass tables if I can't get even a quick look at what they're selling. The only other thing I can say is maybe not put out all your stuff at once? Just a few items you think will sell the best, and maybe on your price sign add "More designs available, just ask!". Something like that would help clear up your table while still letting someone interested know that you might have what they're looking for!

Don't let this con get you down, really. Cons should be about having fun! Maybe take a break from selling next time, wear a cosplay you love and you'll have a much better time!
soraryuu
Apr. 11th, 2013 12:58 pm (UTC)
Well, I would have been Anna, but then I was afraid people would think I was a generic lolita. Plus, I'm too tall to be that cute. I'm sure I would get more attention if I cosplayed as guys, especially since I'm tall and skinny, but I just feel weird whenever I try it. I feel so much more natural in a dress ^^;;;

It was an Arda wig so I guess $40. I really did buy it with the intention of straightening it. I was my Lacus Clyne wig originally. That's another reason I chose Neko over Anna- didn't want to buy a new wig lol Since I make my cosplays, the fabric costs me around $30 all together, so I hate spending more on the wig than the costume.

Like I said, my Yume Nikki costume was my most popular ever. People think it's some obscure fandom and oooh an underground game, but really, it's very popular. Not Bleach popular, but maybe Gundam series popular? But it helps that I really look just like the character I guess. It's an easy costume but I've seen lots of girls make it look terrible somehow lol I'm wearing her again to Boston so I think I should have a good time :)

I have one bulliten board with my plush key chains on it. So I guess maybe I should get another? At the small con I did back in Feb, I put some jewelry on the table and then let people look through a bag with the rest. Maybe I'll do that again but with a box so it's easy to sort through.
distorted_r
Apr. 11th, 2013 09:08 am (UTC)
Damn, you even got the back of the skirt right! I think its three reasons, one I think you mentioned last time before you ever went:

a. female character (explanation below)

b. Not a mainstream anime (or main stream enough :/)

c. The outfit is relatively simple/normal/casual. (Nothing wrong with that, actually I like female characters that get by on more then their fucking "noticeable" or "iconic" outfit design, but let's just say characters like "Lady Red" and dress party/cross-dressing (Ciel Phantonhive) are much easier to notice because damn that those you don't see everyday and well it makes them more iconic. Lady Red because all that damn RED. (that is how I first noticed the cos-player and then it was like duh) and Ciel because all of the Frills and, and DETAILS with the hair and such (I mean this women who did it had everything down to a T. It was actually scary as fuckall when I ran right into her. I was like "Ciel, holy fuck!" and she laughed her ass off and was even super happy because it was comic con and she wasn't getting the attention she deserved. Though honestly, spending what she must have making that outfit, which HAD to be specially made for her height/weight/dimentions because I stood there walking around her literally checking every detail because I had a poster of Ciel in that in my damn bag. Yeah....I could spend, I'm guessing $500 dollars plus, and immeasurable amounts or time to get noticed (and I probably would lol if I cosplayed) but it would be pretty insane and take away from the fun I'd have idk spending the money at the con instead.

I doubt it has a thing to do with the quality of your costume though. I've actually never been to an anime con, but the one con I did go to, comic-con well, male characters got a lot more attention then female characters and there were a fuck ton of women cos-playing the pretty anime males REALLY WELL. Like these people lost have spent fuck-tons of money on the fabric and accessories, because dude. And the female characters that did get the attention? The ones showing a lot of skin because the guys would sit there and stare until they got it, even if the outfit itself was pure fucking shit, without half of the accessories and details. >.>;

Baring that, awesome pictures! And I like the stuff you bought. I don't know much about arts and crafts and how well they usually do selling wise at cons, actually. I'm guessing many people want only "official" things or cosplay accessories that are made by arts and craft makers.

I hope the guy pans out because a group or duo sounds much more fun then cosplaying alone. I didn't cos-play Japan because my boyfriend was too busy before the con with work and stuff to cos-play America. And I wasn't gonna go to con in cosplay without being able the make a yaoi on a dime. LOL
soraryuu
Apr. 11th, 2013 02:13 pm (UTC)
I just feel weird when I cosplay male characters though or else I would just do that. I feel so much more confident when I put on a dress lol

The one time I did get a lot of attention, I was actually wearing a turtle neck lol (Madotsuki from Yume Nikki) But I think it's because I look 100% like the character (I used my real hair because it's the perfect length and color. Some girls who do her with their real hair don't have bangs and it's like nuh-uh)

I think the thing in the AA is, people most want drawn art ad I can't do that, as much as I want to. I just do what I can.
rafira
Apr. 15th, 2013 05:04 pm (UTC)
unfortunately, cosplay can be such a fashion contest that you sometimes don't get recognized or noticed unless you're doing something really flashy. it's a pity you don't wear makeup.... i agree with the other people that the wig could have really helped, and it doens't have the right fringe either, but i'm not sure what it's from anyway. have you considered giving your clothes more shape by tailoring them to your body? if you brought the shirt in so it showed off your curves and gave the skirt a little more body it could look good :)

i always think your cosplays look nice, but they are simple and not overly detailed which is what people seem to look for these days.
maybe if you want more attention it's time to move on to something more complex?

either way, if you feel you're up to it, keep at it! :D
soraryuu
Apr. 15th, 2013 09:11 pm (UTC)
Thanks, but I've decided that it's time to give up :)
rafira
Apr. 17th, 2013 04:11 pm (UTC)
i'm sorry to hear that.
soraryuu
Apr. 21st, 2013 07:54 pm (UTC)
Well it just makes sense- if I'm going to put more effort into making things, I'd rather make real clothes that I can enjoy again and again instead of something I'd wear once. Besides that, I'm not the type that actually improves at anything. I'm at an eternal plateau.
rafira
Apr. 22nd, 2013 04:57 am (UTC)
are you going to make clothes to wear, then? :)
soraryuu
Apr. 22nd, 2013 12:17 pm (UTC)
Yes :) Before I was just making quick things like skirts. I'd like to make my own lolita jumpers now that I have time :)
rafira
Apr. 29th, 2013 04:24 am (UTC)
that would be cool :) i look forward to seeing it!
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